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For Outlook 2007 though I had to use TSL encryption on outgoing instead of SSL. Leave incoming as SSL.

Here is link to those directions.

http://help.live.com[...]moutlook.htm

Nice thing about a POP3 account remember is that it pulls the e-mails from web-based server to your box and leaves nothing behind.

I’ve read everything here and after using Qwest DSL for many years along with a local ISP, I lost my mind and switched to Qwest DSL with MSN on July 21 (undoing that on the 31). I have been online since the days of UNIX and remember 14.4 modems being the hottest thing going.

I did not install the MSN software. I had to configure Thunderbird to work with their so-called email address which happened to end in @q.com.

What I found out astonished me. It isn’t a real email address no matter what your email address looks like or what you think it is. It’s only a HOTMAIL (Live Mail) account. And you can do all of the filtering and whatnot you want but all filtering and such is controlled by Hotmail. Please read my page for important info.

I give all the set up info necessary to send email in Thunderbird, Thunderbird tweaks that have to be made, unblocking port 25 to accomodate antivirus software (since MSN email (HOTMAIL) uses port 25 instead of the standard SSL SMTP outgoing server port), and info on how to get all of your MSN email (HOTMAIL) in Thunderbird.

But will you really want to after reading what I found out??? You’ll have to set TB back to an ancient, outdated, insecure protocol. You’ll have to unblock port 25 in any good antivirus program.

You might not know that you’re probably not getting all of the email you should be getting. To get all of your email you’ll have to whitelist everyone via Hotmail interface and even then, Hotmail’s SmartScreen SpamFilter sometimes deletes legitimate emails. You’ll hear a beep that you have a new email but nothing will show in your inbox.

All this just to get HOTMAIL which is masquerading as MSN mail!

Read my page and then check it out for yourself. I give the info there.

It makes me wonder… if I had to deprecate TB so much to get so-called MSN email to work with their @q.com email address, what does that say about Outlook? Outlook will accept MSN email addresses with no tweaks.

I have to make the leap that Outlook then must be using the same ancient, insecure protocol that I had to force Thunderbird to use. But how is it overriding the blocking of port 25 that most good antivirus programs are now blocking? Some Windows thing? Anyone have the info on these things and Outlook?

It’s only HOTMAIL (Live Mail)!!!! Don’t bother with all this!!! Might as well just log in through the Hotmail link on msn.com!

I never received a CD in my switch to Qwest and have had to deal with tech support for every step of getting going. They don’t know the answers to the most simplest questions outside the rote answers. So I was already burnt out by the time I got to the Outlook issue.

Thanks to this page I’ve gotten Outlook Express to work on my Vista laptop (change Windows Mail to classic appearance for setup). On my wife’s desktop, Norton Antivirus was the problem. Disabling the outgoing scanning did not help but changing the Outgoing port to 587 did the trick!

Now, I am worried that something will be disabled by MSN or Qwest that will break things again. I’ll come back here first thing.

Thanks!

http://www.ineedxphe[...]/setup1.html

A few things to note.

Be sure to hit “Apply” upon completing your configurations on the Advanced tab in Outlook 2000. Outlook Express doesn’t have “Apply” buttons.

Use lower case. Mirror everything you see in the tutorial. I found that trying to change an account doesn’t fly. Remove it, restart PC and redo profile.

Should you “know” that the settings are perfect on a profile, try starting outlook in safe mode.

START>RUN type outlook.exe /safe

That cleared up the one issue I had with one profile.

Anyhow, thank you to all the contributors here. Much appreciated.

Today I’m working on a client’s machine whose qwest/msn under OE6 unexpectedly stopped working last week. After much frustration I find MS has a hotfix (KB933612) for TLS under OE6. This hotfix solved the smtp under OE6 problem for me.

In Outlook, on the Tools menu, click E-mail Accounts.
Click Add a new e-mail account, and then click Next.
Click POP3, and then click Next.
Enter the following information:
Under User Information, type your name and your Windows Live Hotmail e-mail address.
Under Server Information, in the Incoming mail server (POP3) box, type pop3.live.com.
Under Server Information, in the Outgoing mail server (SMTP) box, type smtp.live.com.
Under Logon Information, in the User Name box, type your full Windows Live Hotmail e-mail address.
In the Password box, type the password for your Windows Live Hotmail e-mail address.
Clear the Remember password check box unless you’re the only person with access to the computer. Make sure that the Log on using Secure Password Authentication (SPA) check box isn’t selected.
Click More settings.
On the Outgoing Server tab, make sure that the My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication and Use same settings as my incoming mail server options are selected.
On the Advanced tab, under Server Port Numbers, enter the following information, and then click OK:
In the Incoming server (POP3) box, type 995.
In the Outgoing server (SMTP) box, type 25.
Under both Incoming server (POP3) and Outgoing server (SMTP), select the This server requires an encrypted connection (Auto) check box.
Click Next, and then click Finish.

So if you find yourself going in circles I suggest deleting the profile, restarting PC and starting over. I am convinced that somehow this is what finally got my Outlook 07′s smtp working.

The other thing that is messed up with windows mail on vista is it won’t allow you to easily set up your pop3 and smtp. The wizard throws you out once you type xxx@msn.com. It says windows mail cannot do http based mail. So you have to start the wizard typing a bogus address eg.. xxx@email.msn.com After that it lets you configure for pop3 smtp. Then you go back and edit your email correctly to xxx@msn.com So you have to trick the wizard. So far I have always been able to keep a pop3/smtp email with msn but with vista and this lastest challenge with outlook 2007 its getting more frustrating. And vista’s windows mail is terrible in how it won’t allow for easy pop3 configuration. They also took out the contacts shortcuts in the layout section that outlook express used to have. You have to hit contact button on the toolbar now. Even though the beta testers begged MS not to take out that feature. Between MS and MSN its getting harder to get MSN going on pop3/smtp. But I really hate HTTP mail. I hope they don’t make it totally impossible to add pop3/smtp. But I am glad I got both windows mail and outlook working. I generally like outlook express but windows mail is kind of weak. A step backwards for MS on this one. I think I will start using outlook more.

Hook to the modem directly first when changing to bridge mode. Once the modem is in transparent bridge mode, then connect the modem to the router via the WAN port on the router.

If your router also has an address of 192.168.0.1 address you may want to change it’s IP to something else, as you don’t want the router and the modem to have the same IP.

I have the Qwest Platinum service with MSN Live. I’ve got my q.com email address working in all of my email clients, Thunderbird, Entourage, etc….

Now, if you’re like me, I was not made aware before hand that the standard Qwest modem was also a DHCP server. I have the M1000. For my VoIP service from AT&T CallVantage, I really needed to put my personal router in ‘Play’. Problem is having 2 DHCP servers on the same network is not a good idea.

My Qwest installer was kind enough to NOT install using their set-up CD, and I would recommend NOT using it. All you need to do is logon to the modem with 192.168.0.1, and you can set everything up.

Now here is the part that Qwest won’t tell you, or necessarily support… Their service is set for PPPoA. PPPoA ends at your modem; from the modem to the rest of your network is PPPoE. If you want to put your own router in line, you need to put the Qwest modem into Transparent Bridge mode, by logging onto the modem (192.168.0.1), go to advanced set-up. Doing so will disable everything else about it. In essence, make it act like a cable modem. Take an ethernet cable from your Qwest modem to the WAN/Internet port on your router.

Now, logon to your router, I have a linksys with address 192.168.15.1. Change the internet connection type to PPPoE on the router. In the username field put your xxxxxx@qwest.net, and Password supplied to you by Qwest. If you don’t know it, call Qwest Tech support. They will give it to you. These are your Qwest DSL logon credentials.

I thought it was strange that my logon was an @qwest.net even though I had MSN live and a q.com email. But that is how Qwest works on their DSL side. All Qwest customers have a xxxx@qwest.net username and password for your DSL service, regardless if the ISP is MSN or anyone else.

Note: in a perfect world I should change the address of the modem to match the rest of my network, but it worked. And if I need to get back into it, I can just plug directly into it.

When connecting to smtp.live.com on port 25, it comes up with STARTTLS, definitely not SSL. Thus, in Tools > Account Settings > Outgoing Server (at the very bottom), edit your server settings with the “use TLS” option selected and see if it makes a difference. Many servers require SSL encryption for the incoming but TLS (the next higher SSL version) for the outgoing mail, confusing…

Thus, SSL for the incoming and TLS for the outgoing.

Server settings are Pop3: pop3.live.com, SSL port 995; smtp.live.com, TLS, port 25