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	<title>Comments on: Mac Browser JavaScript Performance</title>
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	<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance</link>
	<description>Alex King, Denver Web Developer</description>
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		<title>By: Beast</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remeber how Apple was claiming that Safari was something like 67% faster than anything else for JavaScript performance?

Apparently they&#039;re sticking to it - Safari is 28.4% faster than NS7. 

JS performance involves many things. If you were to count just javascript execution of something like strings, Mozilla (and NS7) would far out perform safari. Their test is skewed. Ordinarly folks will see the 28.4% faster and think it sounds good, and probably won&#039;t see what a load of BS it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remeber how Apple was claiming that Safari was something like 67% faster than anything else for JavaScript performance?</p>
<p>Apparently they&#8217;re sticking to it &#8211; Safari is 28.4% faster than NS7. </p>
<p>JS performance involves many things. If you were to count just javascript execution of something like strings, Mozilla (and NS7) would far out perform safari. Their test is skewed. Ordinarly folks will see the 28.4% faster and think it sounds good, and probably won&#8217;t see what a load of BS it is.</p>
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		<title>By: schmeeve :: blog</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>schmeeve :: blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mac JS&lt;/strong&gt;
Alex King did some Javascript performance tests on a variety of Mac browsers: Apple&#039;s Safari, the Gecko-based Camino and Firefox, and the now-defunct Microsoft Internet Explorer. 24fun&#039;s Javascript Speed Tests were used. Camino came out on top. I&#039;m ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mac JS</strong><br />
Alex King did some Javascript performance tests on a variety of Mac browsers: Apple&#8217;s Safari, the Gecko-based Camino and Firefox, and the now-defunct Microsoft Internet Explorer. 24fun&#8217;s Javascript Speed Tests were used. Camino came out on top. I&#8217;m &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their &lt;a href=&quot;http://mozilla.org/projects/camino/feedback.html&quot;&gt;feedback page&lt;/a&gt; is probably a good place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their <a href="http://mozilla.org/projects/camino/feedback.html">feedback page</a> is probably a good place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2004 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there a place where we can commend the developers of Camino?

I have always liked this browser and want to see them continue development on it.. thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there a place where we can commend the developers of Camino?</p>
<p>I have always liked this browser and want to see them continue development on it.. thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1239</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sort of, both projects started the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of, both projects started the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Heilemann</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1238</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Heilemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically Camino is Firefox for OS X? (roughly speaking :)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically Camino is Firefox for OS X? (roughly speaking <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and oh-- i got about 11.7 seconds running that test with about 20 apps running</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and oh&#8211; i got about 11.7 seconds running that test with about 20 apps running</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2004 07:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love camino! (my default browser for a VERY long time) it&#039;s great to know it&#039;s javascript is way up there...

now if it could only display some pages, like ESPN&#039;s properly, i would never have to use safari! (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love camino! (my default browser for a VERY long time) it&#8217;s great to know it&#8217;s javascript is way up there&#8230;</p>
<p>now if it could only display some pages, like ESPN&#8217;s properly, i would never have to use safari! (:</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had nightlies in the last few months that were a little crash happy but I&#039;m currently using a nightly from a week or two ago that has never crashed (knock on wood).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had nightlies in the last few months that were a little crash happy but I&#8217;m currently using a nightly from a week or two ago that has never crashed (knock on wood).</p>
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		<title>By: John Strung</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1227</link>
		<dc:creator>John Strung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read elsewhere that turning off all languages other than English in Safari (by selecting the Safari App in Finder and doing a GetInfo) can significantly speed up Safari. Has anyone tested this? Does it bring Safari up to Camino speeds?

I love Camino, by the way, and use it as my default browser, but it does crash a lot which is annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read elsewhere that turning off all languages other than English in Safari (by selecting the Safari App in Finder and doing a GetInfo) can significantly speed up Safari. Has anyone tested this? Does it bring Safari up to Camino speeds?</p>
<p>I love Camino, by the way, and use it as my default browser, but it does crash a lot which is annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: echeng</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1217</link>
		<dc:creator>echeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tests on a 2.4Ghz P4, Windows XP

Firefox: 
TEST 1 time: 7.718 sec.
TEST 2 time: 1.234 sec.
TEST 3 time: 0.922 sec.
TEST 4 time: 0.594 sec.
TEST 5 time: 0.36 sec.
TEST 6 time: 4.875 sec.
TEST 7 time: 2.094 sec.

Total: 17.797 seconds

IE 6:
TEST 1 time: 7.5 sec. 
TEST 2 time: 5.703 sec. 
TEST 3 time: 1.047 sec. 
TEST 4 time: 0.735 sec. 
TEST 5 time: 0.656 sec. 
TEST 6 time: 1.812 sec. 
TEST 7 time: 1.313 sec.

Total: 18.766 seconds

[edited, totals added by Alex]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tests on a 2.4Ghz P4, Windows XP</p>
<p>Firefox:<br />
TEST 1 time: 7.718 sec.<br />
TEST 2 time: 1.234 sec.<br />
TEST 3 time: 0.922 sec.<br />
TEST 4 time: 0.594 sec.<br />
TEST 5 time: 0.36 sec.<br />
TEST 6 time: 4.875 sec.<br />
TEST 7 time: 2.094 sec.</p>
<p>Total: 17.797 seconds</p>
<p>IE 6:<br />
TEST 1 time: 7.5 sec.<br />
TEST 2 time: 5.703 sec.<br />
TEST 3 time: 1.047 sec.<br />
TEST 4 time: 0.735 sec.<br />
TEST 5 time: 0.656 sec.<br />
TEST 6 time: 1.812 sec.<br />
TEST 7 time: 1.313 sec.</p>
<p>Total: 18.766 seconds</p>
<p>[edited, totals added by Alex]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camino uses native Mac OS X widgets and the UI is written in Cocoa.

I like the &quot;feel&quot; better than Firefox, but it doesn&#039;t have accesskey support and Firefox does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camino uses native Mac OS X widgets and the UI is written in Cocoa.</p>
<p>I like the &#8220;feel&#8221; better than Firefox, but it doesn&#8217;t have accesskey support and Firefox does.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Heilemann</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Heilemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap! That&#039;s really impressive.

Tell me, what is the actual difference between Camino and Firefox?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap! That&#8217;s really impressive.</p>
<p>Tell me, what is the actual difference between Camino and Firefox?</p>
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		<title>By: Viper007Bond</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1213</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper007Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - only tested MyIE2, but it&#039;s very good to know that just &#039;cause it&#039;s based on IE doesn&#039;t mean that it has to suck as much as IE does. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; only tested MyIE2, but it&#8217;s very good to know that just &#8217;cause it&#8217;s based on IE doesn&#8217;t mean that it has to suck as much as IE does. <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Viper007Bond</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2004/03/01/mac-browser-javascript-performance#comment-1212</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper007Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I use MyIE2 and it did MUCH better than IE does:

Internet Explorer 5.x
	67.95 seconds
	13 results  
Internet Explorer 5.5x
	44.05 seconds
	5 results  
Internet Explorer 6.x
	42.51 seconds	215 results
MyIE2
	17.24 seconds
	15 results  

My test completed in about 23 seconds overall, the first text taking a good 60% of that. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I use MyIE2 and it did MUCH better than IE does:</p>
<p>Internet Explorer 5.x<br />
	67.95 seconds<br />
	13 results<br />
Internet Explorer 5.5x<br />
	44.05 seconds<br />
	5 results<br />
Internet Explorer 6.x<br />
	42.51 seconds	215 results<br />
MyIE2<br />
	17.24 seconds<br />
	15 results  </p>
<p>My test completed in about 23 seconds overall, the first text taking a good 60% of that. <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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