Comments on: FireWire HD Problems http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems Alex King, Denver Web Developer Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:02:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3506 Alex Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:04:59 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3506 Thanks. I was able to return these enclosures - check the post linked above for more info. Thanks. I was able to return these enclosures – check the post linked above for more info.

]]> By: Anonymous http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3505 Anonymous Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:37:18 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3505 For what it's worth, check what model of the FW chip you use (System Profiler will tell if it's Prolific, Oxford or Ingenio). If it's Prolific PL3507, early revisions of the firmware will basically not set fw id to anything else then 0, and thus you can't have two together as you get an ID clash. Solution for Prolific might be a firmware flash over USB from Windows box - http://member.newsguy.com/~siccos/PL3507%20Firmware.htm If it's Oxford, you *might* have a very early firmware version (although my experience is only with OXFW911, not OXFW922) and might need to flash it. http://www.fwdepot.com/firewiredepot/firmware/firmware.html should have a link to flasher. Initio chips so far are the best in day to day usage (I have two Macally PHC-100AC enclosures), although required flashing of the firmware too to the new revision. Any way, just guessing here. For what it’s worth, check what model of the FW chip you use (System Profiler will tell if it’s Prolific, Oxford or Ingenio). If it’s Prolific PL3507, early revisions of the firmware will basically not set fw id to anything else then 0, and thus you can’t have two together as you get an ID clash.

Solution for Prolific might be a firmware flash over USB from Windows box – http://member.newsgu[...]Firmware.htm

If it’s Oxford, you *might* have a very early firmware version (although my experience is only with OXFW911, not OXFW922) and might need to flash it.
http://www.fwdepot.c[...]irmware.html should have a link to flasher.

Initio chips so far are the best in day to day usage (I have two Macally PHC-100AC enclosures), although required flashing of the firmware too to the new revision.

Any way, just guessing here.

]]> By: alexking.org: Blog http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3370 alexking.org: Blog Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:10:48 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3370 <strong>Rsync Backup System</strong> Last February I started looking at using my old PowerMac G4 (dual 500mhz, gigabit ethernet model) as a live backup server since I'd moved to the PowerBook full time for development. Nine months later, I've finally done it! I know several people t... Rsync Backup System
Last February I started looking at using my old PowerMac G4 (dual 500mhz, gigabit ethernet model) as a live backup server since I’d moved to the PowerBook full time for development. Nine months later, I’ve finally done it! I know several people t…

]]> By: Paul http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3347 Paul Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:09:43 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3347 Just found this - http://missig.org/julian/blog/2004/06/10/prolific-pl3507-firewire-device/ I have 3 of these drives running under mac os x.3.4 and each drive mounts and works flawlessly individually, but as soon as i daisy chain them together, Only the first drive mounts and the other 2 just spin. thanks zen ...then... Averagezen, you’re seeing those problems because each chip is supposed to have a unique identifier… but the PL3507 sets them to 000 for each one Just found this – http://missig.org/ju[...]wire-device/

I have 3 of these drives running under mac os x.3.4 and each drive mounts and works flawlessly individually, but as soon as i daisy chain them together, Only the first drive mounts and the other 2 just spin. thanks zen

…then…

Averagezen, you’re seeing those problems because each chip is supposed to have a unique identifier… but the PL3507 sets them to 000 for each one

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3298 Alex Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:18:59 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3298 Thanks for the info, I'll try that. Thanks for the info, I’ll try that.

]]> By: Isaack Rasmussen http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3294 Isaack Rasmussen Mon, 06 Dec 2004 05:53:31 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3294 If you have a Prolific chipset, you might want to look into upgrading the firmware. Daisy chaining with this chipset was fixed/enabled with the most recent firmware version, that most people do not have. And if you are running it on Windows with data corruption problems, this might help you. http://www.isaack.info/archives/2004/01/13/winxp-service-pack-2/ If you have a Prolific chipset, you might want to look into upgrading the firmware. Daisy chaining with this chipset was fixed/enabled with the most recent firmware version, that most people do not have.

And if you are running it on Windows with data corruption problems, this might help you.
http://www.isaack.in[...]vice-pack-2/

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3293 Alex Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:15:27 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3293 I've ordered a pair of <a href="http://www.coolerexpress.com/byal3hadrexe1.html">these</a> on recommendation from some friends. I'll post a follow-up when I get them. I’ve ordered a pair of these on recommendation from some friends. I’ll post a follow-up when I get them.

]]> By: Dave http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3292 Dave Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:12:56 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3292 I bought two of these: http://www.argosy.com.tw/product/hd360c.htm Combo USB2 and FireWire 400, $38 ea. plus tax and shipping. They work great, both at the same time to different ports. Didn't try daisy. Each comes with USB2 & FireWire cables, and the adapter for the small-sized FireWire port. I got them here: http://www.pcmicrostore.com (undergoing maintenance right now) I bought two of these: http://www.argosy.co[...]t/hd360c.htm

Combo USB2 and FireWire 400, $38 ea. plus tax and shipping. They work great, both at the same time to different ports. Didn’t try daisy. Each comes with USB2 & FireWire cables, and the adapter for the small-sized FireWire port.

I got them here: http://www.pcmicrostore.com (undergoing maintenance right now)

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3291 Alex Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:27:28 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3291 I agree, one works great, but I need them both to work. I can connect the iPod to the enclosure, but I can't connect the other enclosed drive to the enclosure. These are for backups so I haven't tried to make either of them bootable. I agree, one works great, but I need them both to work. I can connect the iPod to the enclosure, but I can’t connect the other enclosed drive to the enclosure. These are for backups so I haven’t tried to make either of them bootable.

]]> By: Paul http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3290 Paul Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:10:39 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3290 I work at CompUSA, and as such got those same enclosures for close to $30 a piece (best deal I could find that didn't require shipping). It works perfectly (though I only have one), and I can run my iPod through it should i need to and it all works fine (all this on my 12" iBook G4). The only problem I have is that I can't get OS X to install on the drive, or after CCC'ing my main drive to the one in the enclosure, I can't boot from it. Can you boot from your enclosure (either one)? I work at CompUSA, and as such got those same enclosures for close to $30 a piece (best deal I could find that didn’t require shipping).

It works perfectly (though I only have one), and I can run my iPod through it should i need to and it all works fine (all this on my 12″ iBook G4).

The only problem I have is that I can’t get OS X to install on the drive, or after CCC’ing my main drive to the one in the enclosure, I can’t boot from it.

Can you boot from your enclosure (either one)?

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3289 Alex Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:44:11 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3289 The drives are <a href="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=309209&pfp=BROWSE" rel="external">200GB Seagate Barraccudas</a>. I got generic CompUSA <a href="http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=306103&pfp=SEARCH" rel="external">FireWire enclosures</a> which now seems like a mistake. The drives are 200GB Seagate Barraccudas. I got generic CompUSA FireWire enclosures which now seems like a mistake.

]]> By: Peter http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3288 Peter Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:40:46 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3288 Just curious, what make/model were the drives and drive enclosures? Just curious, what make/model were the drives and drive enclosures?

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3287 Alex Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:02:11 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3287 I put them both on "cable select", and I have the exact same behavior (testing on the PowerBook). Either will mount perfectly but when I chain them, they basically cause the system to freeze. I put them both on “cable select”, and I have the exact same behavior (testing on the PowerBook). Either will mount perfectly but when I chain them, they basically cause the system to freeze.

]]> By: Peter http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3286 Peter Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:43:36 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3286 Can you try setting them to cable select, or set one to master and the other to slave? You know, just to spite the instruction manuals. Can you try setting them to cable select, or set one to master and the other to slave? You know, just to spite the instruction manuals.

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems#comment-3285 Alex Sun, 05 Dec 2004 20:39:06 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2004/12/05/firewire-hd-problems/#comment-3285 The are both master, per the instructions included with the FireWire case. The are both master, per the instructions included with the FireWire case.

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