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	<description>Alex King, Denver Web Developer</description>
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		<title>By: Teh Blarg &#187; Feed Reader project abandoned</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-8693</link>
		<dc:creator>Teh Blarg &#187; Feed Reader project abandoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Edit: Regarding FeedLounge, it appears that there are plans of a free version with ads. My apologies to Alex. I guess I&#8217;ll have to wait to see when that is available (and also with Opera support) to make a comparison myself.        &#171; Uncle Ray? &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Edit: Regarding FeedLounge, it appears that there are plans of a free version with ads. My apologies to Alex. I guess I&#8217;ll have to wait to see when that is available (and also with Opera support) to make a comparison myself.        &laquo; Uncle Ray? &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Surfarama</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-8189</link>
		<dc:creator>Surfarama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Advertising and Feedreaders (again!)&lt;/strong&gt;

NOTE: This post has been sitting unpublished for awhile now...so I decided to go ahead ready or not...

Alex King and co. are developing a new web based feedreader, Feedlounge, which looks really promising.

But they will have a challenge when it c...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Advertising and Feedreaders (again!)</strong></p>
<p>NOTE: This post has been sitting unpublished for awhile now&#8230;so I decided to go ahead ready or not&#8230;</p>
<p>Alex King and co. are developing a new web based feedreader, Feedlounge, which looks really promising.</p>
<p>But they will have a challenge when it c&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7599</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex: Your prior art citations are spot on.  To counter Andrew, I&#039;ll bring up mailing lists that are pay-for-subscription--they exist, and I used to run one.  I would not, as a provider, have any expectations that an application interface couldn&#039;t overlay ads that add user value in such situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex: Your prior art citations are spot on.  To counter Andrew, I&#8217;ll bring up mailing lists that are pay-for-subscription&#8211;they exist, and I used to run one.  I would not, as a provider, have any expectations that an application interface couldn&#8217;t overlay ads that add user value in such situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7482</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The critical difference between gmail, forums and something like Feedlounge might come down to the fact that people aren&#039;t trying to make money from their emails or forum posts, whereas some folks are making money via their blog posts.

I wouldn&#039;t think there should be a problem, but I can see why others might.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The critical difference between gmail, forums and something like Feedlounge might come down to the fact that people aren&#8217;t trying to make money from their emails or forum posts, whereas some folks are making money via their blog posts.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t think there should be a problem, but I can see why others might.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Griego</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7447</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Griego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 05:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of Opera, based on what I&#039;ve seen they do both. They specifically sells general ads and then will show Google AdSense which is contextual to the content I&#039;m seeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of Opera, based on what I&#8217;ve seen they do both. They specifically sells general ads and then will show Google AdSense which is contextual to the content I&#8217;m seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7446</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 04:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could almost make the same argument about using any commercial feed reader or web browser, couldn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could almost make the same argument about using any commercial feed reader or web browser, couldn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Koziarski</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7444</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Koziarski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everyone here,  however I know that some publishers (denton, calcanis etc.) consider these ads as violations of their non-commercial licenses.

As they see it, feedlounge is providing a commercial service and benefiting from the feeds.   

I personally see it as users choosing to read their feeds in an application that happens to be on the web.   Of course .... it&#039;s all down to  &#039;see a lawyer&#039; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everyone here,  however I know that some publishers (denton, calcanis etc.) consider these ads as violations of their non-commercial licenses.</p>
<p>As they see it, feedlounge is providing a commercial service and benefiting from the feeds.   </p>
<p>I personally see it as users choosing to read their feeds in an application that happens to be on the web.   Of course &#8230;. it&#8217;s all down to  &#8216;see a lawyer&#8217; <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Iolaire McFadden</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>Iolaire McFadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its ok for you to have ads.  You are not taking someone&#039;s content and adding ads.  Instead someone is closing to read the publishers content via your interface, and thus will be subjected to your ads.

This is a far cry from sites which aggregate our rss feeds for no reason and then add ads with the goal of say ranking high in a search engine, getting traffic and making money from those ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its ok for you to have ads.  You are not taking someone&#8217;s content and adding ads.  Instead someone is closing to read the publishers content via your interface, and thus will be subjected to your ads.</p>
<p>This is a far cry from sites which aggregate our rss feeds for no reason and then add ads with the goal of say ranking high in a search engine, getting traffic and making money from those ads.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerim Friedman</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerim Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. Brett beat me to it!</description>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7431</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, you&#039;ll have gmail style ads in no time, after they buy you out. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, you&#8217;ll have gmail style ads in no time, after they buy you out. <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/08/18/advertising#comment-7430</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People get way too up in arms over advertising. As long as it is unobtrusive, I&#039;ve got no problem with it - especially if I decided Feedlounge was good but not worth paying for. Advertising is what keeps things &quot;free.&quot;

I do understand the problem with selling directly off someone else&#039;s content, but that&#039;s pretty much the only scenario for Adsense where I could see it being a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People get way too up in arms over advertising. As long as it is unobtrusive, I&#8217;ve got no problem with it &#8211; especially if I decided Feedlounge was good but not worth paying for. Advertising is what keeps things &#8220;free.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do understand the problem with selling directly off someone else&#8217;s content, but that&#8217;s pretty much the only scenario for Adsense where I could see it being a problem.</p>
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