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	<title>Comments on: WP Spaminator can Bite Me</title>
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	<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me</link>
	<description>Alex King, Denver Web Developer</description>
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		<title>By: Malliobiana</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-63297</link>
		<dc:creator>Malliobiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spam blockers remind me of teachers who uses to criticize me for laying my head down on my desk and closing my eyes.  I was working on concepts for original essays.  They assumed I was wasting my time.  They were wasting my time.  I suspect this will be considered spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spam blockers remind me of teachers who uses to criticize me for laying my head down on my desk and closing my eyes.  I was working on concepts for original essays.  They assumed I was wasting my time.  They were wasting my time.  I suspect this will be considered spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougal Campbell</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9733</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougal Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, though, your pingback made it through.

Between my own huge-ass gray/black lists of spam words, Akismet, and SpamValve, the vast majority of the spam targetted at my site ends up flagged as spam. A tiny few occassionally get flagged for moderation. And it&#039;s exceedingly rare for any of it to actually run the gauntlet and appear publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, though, your pingback made it through.</p>
<p>Between my own huge-ass gray/black lists of spam words, Akismet, and SpamValve, the vast majority of the spam targetted at my site ends up flagged as spam. A tiny few occassionally get flagged for moderation. And it&#8217;s exceedingly rare for any of it to actually run the gauntlet and appear publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Heilemann</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9727</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Heilemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 09:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to say that both Spaminator and Spam Karma 2 failed on BB. Akismet however works _great_, and I highly recommend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say that both Spaminator and Spam Karma 2 failed on BB. Akismet however works _great_, and I highly recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9726</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Spaminator for almost a year. Kitty, who is the author of Spaminator, seems to have disappeared from the blogsphere altogether. No activity as far as I can gather. She was put off by the WP1.5 incompatibility with her plug-in/s and switched to Drupal (dormant for many, many months).

In due time, Spaminator began to kill genuine comments -- at least ones I was informed about. At times I was using CAPTCHA, but wasn&#039;t sure to what extent it helped. I then decided to experiment with CAPTCHA. When disabled, dozens/hundreds of spammy comments flowed in every day. Many were stacked in the moderation queue because they contained or matched obvious spam characteristics. At some stage, I began to see comments that contained links, but did not bother with anchor text. P0ker sites would post names of songs and artists. When I enabled CPATCHA (in two serpate domains), the number of spammy comments verged 0. I hope it carries on this way. As far as I can recall, this CAPTCHA implementation is weak and was sensitive to floods a few months back.

I use Coffelius&#039; plug-in which I initially installed last year, but disabled at times because CAPTCHA&#039;s have their problems too.

http://coffelius.arabandalucia.com/index.php?p=9

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Spaminator for almost a year. Kitty, who is the author of Spaminator, seems to have disappeared from the blogsphere altogether. No activity as far as I can gather. She was put off by the WP1.5 incompatibility with her plug-in/s and switched to Drupal (dormant for many, many months).</p>
<p>In due time, Spaminator began to kill genuine comments &#8212; at least ones I was informed about. At times I was using CAPTCHA, but wasn&#8217;t sure to what extent it helped. I then decided to experiment with CAPTCHA. When disabled, dozens/hundreds of spammy comments flowed in every day. Many were stacked in the moderation queue because they contained or matched obvious spam characteristics. At some stage, I began to see comments that contained links, but did not bother with anchor text. P0ker sites would post names of songs and artists. When I enabled CPATCHA (in two serpate domains), the number of spammy comments verged 0. I hope it carries on this way. As far as I can recall, this CAPTCHA implementation is weak and was sensitive to floods a few months back.</p>
<p>I use Coffelius&#8217; plug-in which I initially installed last year, but disabled at times because CAPTCHA&#8217;s have their problems too.</p>
<p><a href="http://coffelius.arabandalucia.com/index.php?p=9" rel="nofollow">http://coffelius.ara[...]ndex.php?p=9</a></p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9723</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I like how &lt;a href=&quot;http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/&quot;&gt;Spam Karma 2&lt;/a&gt; works now: after analyzing the request [looking for an encrypted payload in the comment form that an automated spammer isn&#039;t going to pass along, doing a user-login check, and, newest of all, a check for Javascript capability in the browser---chances are that the user will have JS working and a spammer won&#039;t!], then and only then does it do any filtering based on the comment [IP checking, content checking, looking for lots of URLs in the text, etc.].  If the karma&#039;s not terribly low in the threshhold, but not high enough to post, SK2 then presents a user with a captcha to validate that a human is posting.

Yes, it seems a bit much, but I find that the only spammers who seem to get through anymore are those who&#039;ve radically changed tactics or are spamming by hand, and the only person who seems to get caught with any regularlity is my father, whose browser doesn&#039;t use JS but who successfully fills out the captcha every time.

Now, you may not want to use it, Alex, but I&#039;ve had great success.  [YMMV!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I like how <a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/">Spam Karma 2</a> works now: after analyzing the request [looking for an encrypted payload in the comment form that an automated spammer isn't going to pass along, doing a user-login check, and, newest of all, a check for Javascript capability in the browser---chances are that the user will have JS working and a spammer won't!], then and only then does it do any filtering based on the comment [IP checking, content checking, looking for lots of URLs in the text, etc.].  If the karma&#8217;s not terribly low in the threshhold, but not high enough to post, SK2 then presents a user with a captcha to validate that a human is posting.</p>
<p>Yes, it seems a bit much, but I find that the only spammers who seem to get through anymore are those who&#8217;ve radically changed tactics or are spamming by hand, and the only person who seems to get caught with any regularlity is my father, whose browser doesn&#8217;t use JS but who successfully fills out the captcha every time.</p>
<p>Now, you may not want to use it, Alex, but I&#8217;ve had great success.  [YMMV!]</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9722</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess it is time I address the issue and find a work around or a new spam blocker.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try: &lt;a href=&quot;http://akismet.com/&quot;&gt;Akismet&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/&quot;&gt;Spam Karma 2&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess it is time I address the issue and find a work around or a new spam blocker.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try: <a href="http://akismet.com/">Akismet</a> or <a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/">Spam Karma 2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2005/12/05/wp-spaminator-can-bite-me#comment-9721</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the spam blocker.  I feel your frustration because the stupid thing is so inconsistent!  I have found that it only accepts names that are 5 characters or more.  So if you only had typed your first name, it may have rejected you for that reason.  It is not something that I have paid much attention to yet because comments on the blog are few.  I guess it is time I address the issue and find a work around or a new spam blocker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the spam blocker.  I feel your frustration because the stupid thing is so inconsistent!  I have found that it only accepts names that are 5 characters or more.  So if you only had typed your first name, it may have rejected you for that reason.  It is not something that I have paid much attention to yet because comments on the blog are few.  I guess it is time I address the issue and find a work around or a new spam blocker.</p>
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