Comments on: WP Themes vs. Templates http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates Alex King, Denver Web Developer Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:02:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: wordpress from malaysia http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-57791 wordpress from malaysia Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:23:09 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-57791 i agree with you alex. i'm not a good programmer, so...i'm not really understand with your tips on how you do it. however, its open my eyes..because editing 3 files for any wp themes is too much confusing to me!!..hahaha i agree with you alex.
i’m not a good programmer, so…i’m not really understand with your tips on how you do it.

however, its open my eyes..because editing 3 files for any wp themes is too much confusing to me!!..hahaha

]]> By: Srijit http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-54081 Srijit Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:20:08 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-54081 Joomla does not use smarty. it uses pattemplate. It is somewhat like Alex envisions. One singe file defines the look for the entire site. Much easier to edit than multiple pages in a wordpress setup. But to be fair, i havent found wordpress templates to be that bad either. smarty on the other hand makes me want to cry Joomla does not use smarty. it uses pattemplate.
It is somewhat like Alex envisions. One singe file defines the look for the entire site. Much easier to edit than multiple pages in a wordpress setup. But to be fair, i havent found wordpress templates to be that bad either. smarty on the other hand makes me want to cry

]]> By: Alex King: WordPress Themes Versus Templates « Lorelle on WordPress http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31859 Alex King: WordPress Themes Versus Templates « Lorelle on WordPress Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:24:18 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31859 [...] Alex King’s “WP Themes vs. Templates” discusses the modular system of how WordPress Themes work with some good tips on creating a template form to work within your WordPress Theme. While the theme system works well as advertised, it doesn’t work exactly the way I like to set up my web front-end code. Luckily, it is so flexible that I can easily implement my preferred system. [...] [...] Alex King’s “WP Themes vs. Templates” discusses the modular system of how WordPress Themes work with some good tips on creating a template form to work within your WordPress Theme. While the theme system works well as advertised, it doesn’t work exactly the way I like to set up my web front-end code. Luckily, it is so flexible that I can easily implement my preferred system. [...]

]]> By: Tingting http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31453 Tingting Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:56:54 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31453 well said.! well said.!

]]> By: Aaron Murphy http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31448 Aaron Murphy Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:52:35 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31448 Oops, I guess you can't use carat - code, here is a link. http://www.aaronsportfolio.com/resources/posts/09242006_a.txt Oops, I guess you can’t use carat – code, here is a link. http://www.aaronspor[...]242006_a.txt

]]> By: Aaron Murphy http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31447 Aaron Murphy Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:50:06 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31447 I have been working out this same approach on my site recently. I want to minimize the number of templates I use, maximize the number of includes but still stay as flexible as possible. As Randy mentioned above, I've seperated out the loop into an include file. Which gives me the ability to use different loops not just entire templates. What I'm dealing with right now is setting up my templates so I can call specific categories and specific pages, as well as specific formatting by using logic. My goal is to have 1-2 main templates (index.php/page.php) take care of most of the site. This is my index.php page right now, <code> </code> Much cleaner than what I used to have before I removed the loop. I have been working out this same approach on my site recently. I want to minimize the number of templates I use, maximize the number of includes but still stay as flexible as possible.

As Randy mentioned above, I’ve seperated out the loop into an include file. Which gives me the ability to use different loops not just entire templates.

What I’m dealing with right now is setting up my templates so I can call specific categories and specific pages, as well as specific formatting by using logic. My goal is to have 1-2 main templates (index.php/page.php) take care of most of the site.

This is my index.php page right now,


Much cleaner than what I used to have before I removed the loop.

]]> By: Noel Cower http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31444 Noel Cower Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:16:54 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31444 It's an interesting approach to controlling content placement. I'll keep this in mind while I'm redesigning my site -- who knows, could make my life a whole lot easier. Thanks for the insight. It’s an interesting approach to controlling content placement. I’ll keep this in mind while I’m redesigning my site — who knows, could make my life a whole lot easier.

Thanks for the insight.

]]> By: Craig Hartel http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31440 Craig Hartel Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:20:35 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31440 While the system currently in use is a boon to those who know WP very well, it's a huge mess to those of us who are less code-savvy. Just about every template is so unique that it makes it hard to transfer your own design ideas or changes from one to the other. Me? I'm not a fan of the system. It's too complex for most users to truly understand. While the system currently in use is a boon to those who know WP very well, it’s a huge mess to those of us who are less code-savvy. Just about every template is so unique that it makes it hard to transfer your own design ideas or changes from one to the other.

Me? I’m not a fan of the system. It’s too complex for most users to truly understand.

]]> By: milo http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31439 milo Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:17:35 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31439 Totally agree with you, as "Ideologist" said, can you show us an example please. Totally agree with you, as “Ideologist” said, can you show us an example please.

]]> By: Perun http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31438 Perun Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:02:28 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31438 Hi Alex, <blockquote>This is all well and good, but if you make a change to your overall layout, you often have to make it in 3 places (the index, single and page files).</blockquote> 1. lot of people prefer that index, page and single file looks different. So its not everytime necessary to put the same change in index, single and page. 2. if you like to have it in one file you can make only index and with if-statements etc. you can realize the output for single site, page or main site ... 3. <b>please not smarty!</b> i saw smarty in action in xtcommerce, joomla and in serendipity. And smarty is for me pain in the neck. Comparing to this: the themesystem of WP is great and easy to understand ... above all for people they are not programmers. Sorry for my bad english and i hope you can understand me. 4. Hi Alex,

This is all well and good, but if you make a change to your overall layout, you often have to make it in 3 places (the index, single and page files).

1. lot of people prefer that index, page and single file looks different. So its not everytime necessary to put the same change in index, single and page.

2. if you like to have it in one file you can make only index and with if-statements etc. you can realize the output for single site, page or main site …

3. please not smarty! i saw smarty in action in xtcommerce, joomla and in serendipity. And smarty is for me pain in the neck. Comparing to this: the themesystem of WP is great and easy to understand … above all for people they are not programmers.

Sorry for my bad english and i hope you can understand me.

4.

]]> By: Innovation Wings » WordPress: Themes vs. Templates http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31437 Innovation Wings » WordPress: Themes vs. Templates Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:53:42 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31437 [...] Nachdem bei Joomla vor einiger Zeit die Diskussion losgegangen ist, wie Content und Präsentation am besten voneinander getrennt werden können, und wie ein universelles, einfach handzuhabendes System aufgebaut werden muss, startet diese Diskussion jetzt auch bei WordPress. [...] [...] Nachdem bei Joomla vor einiger Zeit die Diskussion losgegangen ist, wie Content und Präsentation am besten voneinander getrennt werden können, und wie ein universelles, einfach handzuhabendes System aufgebaut werden muss, startet diese Diskussion jetzt auch bei WordPress. [...]

]]> By: Tipunch http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31436 Tipunch Sat, 23 Sep 2006 06:38:48 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31436 I also would appreciate seeing an example, a set of your main files as described with their holes, to fully appreciate your approach. I also would appreciate seeing an example, a set of your main files as described with their holes, to fully appreciate your approach.

]]> By: Compuntoes http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31435 Compuntoes Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:11:21 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31435 good idea (: good idea (:

]]> By: Abhijit Nadgouda http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31434 Abhijit Nadgouda Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:09:46 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31434 Is this like Smarty? The individual files deal with only retrieval of data. The data is actually displayed in the master template. Is this like Smarty? The individual files deal with only retrieval of data. The data is actually displayed in the master template.

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates#comment-31433 Alex Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:54:32 +0000 http://www.alexking.org/blog/2006/09/22/wp-themes-vs-templates/#comment-31433 Exactly, this gives me that benefit. Exactly, this gives me that benefit.

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