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	<title>Comments on: CAPTCHA or a Challenge Response E-mail?</title>
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	<description>Alex King, Denver Web Developer</description>
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		<title>By: Gabby Jim</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-65470</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabby Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For personal email accounts (not businesses where it might be worse than spam) how about ip addresses for the white list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For personal email accounts (not businesses where it might be worse than spam) how about ip addresses for the white list?</p>
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		<title>By: stanley</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-62615</link>
		<dc:creator>stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally?  I used spamarrest for over a year and it was great except when I needed to do something to a new account or add or delete accounts, etc...their tech support is almost non existent and they really don&#039;t seem to care if you are having trouble or not.  Especially for a techless wonder like myself, it was a nightmare trying to get a new email address added and working properly.  If you are tech wizard, it&#039;s great...if you are like me and sort of slow at that stuff...get ready to be frustrated needlessly by the non-existent support staff and their non-existent phone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally?  I used spamarrest for over a year and it was great except when I needed to do something to a new account or add or delete accounts, etc&#8230;their tech support is almost non existent and they really don&#8217;t seem to care if you are having trouble or not.  Especially for a techless wonder like myself, it was a nightmare trying to get a new email address added and working properly.  If you are tech wizard, it&#8217;s great&#8230;if you are like me and sort of slow at that stuff&#8230;get ready to be frustrated needlessly by the non-existent support staff and their non-existent phone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mcs</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-61341</link>
		<dc:creator>mcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I dislike CAPTCHAs. Too many are hard to read. The CR is a better solution for me. It works for both web forms and straight emails. I think the wording on the response email is important. Let people know that this is a confirmation email and to thank them for emailing and that they will only have to confirm their email once. Like Eric, I appreciate the response email. Just make it personable and not a &#039;We think you may be spam so we&#039;re making you go through a hoop before we read your email&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I dislike CAPTCHAs. Too many are hard to read. The CR is a better solution for me. It works for both web forms and straight emails. I think the wording on the response email is important. Let people know that this is a confirmation email and to thank them for emailing and that they will only have to confirm their email once. Like Eric, I appreciate the response email. Just make it personable and not a &#8216;We think you may be spam so we&#8217;re making you go through a hoop before we read your email&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: CAPTCHA versus Email &#124; Joseph Scott's Blog</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-59479</link>
		<dc:creator>CAPTCHA versus Email &#124; Joseph Scott's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] King had a great post last month asking people which they thought was more annoying, CAPTCHA or Challenge Response E-mail. The comments suggest that most people find email more annoying, assuming that the CAPTCHA [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] King had a great post last month asking people which they thought was more annoying, CAPTCHA or Challenge Response E-mail. The comments suggest that most people find email more annoying, assuming that the CAPTCHA [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clarks</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57500</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think captch is less annoying, as you see the alphanumeric data on the same page and need to enter it in the box.
But the email. You have to open a new window, login to your email account, click on the link, and then the comment is activated.

But I think email blocks more spam than captcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think captch is less annoying, as you see the alphanumeric data on the same page and need to enter it in the box.<br />
But the email. You have to open a new window, login to your email account, click on the link, and then the comment is activated.</p>
<p>But I think email blocks more spam than captcha.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Justice</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57376</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question, I think that challenge response is much more annoying, unless there is some reason such as a forum where you have requested to be emailed about responses.  CAPTCHA must be readable I hate it when you go to a site and they show unreadable CAPTCHA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question, I think that challenge response is much more annoying, unless there is some reason such as a forum where you have requested to be emailed about responses.  CAPTCHA must be readable I hate it when you go to a site and they show unreadable CAPTCHA.</p>
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		<title>By: Community Guy &#187; links for 2007-08-06</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57367</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Guy &#187; links for 2007-08-06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CAPTCHA or a Challenge Response E-mail? &#124; alexking.org A good discussion: &#8220;Which is More Annoying? A CAPTCHA or a Challenge Response E-mail?&#8221; (tags: spam blogging) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CAPTCHA or a Challenge Response E-mail? | alexking.org A good discussion: &#8220;Which is More Annoying? A CAPTCHA or a Challenge Response E-mail?&#8221; (tags: spam blogging) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ehsan</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57286</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Personally find email links more annoying</description>
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		<title>By: Linda Joseph</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57284</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is totally dependent on how hard it is to read the secret code.  There are some that are impossible to decipher!

Generally speaking, the capcha is preferable.  Most emails are not even read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is totally dependent on how hard it is to read the secret code.  There are some that are impossible to decipher!</p>
<p>Generally speaking, the capcha is preferable.  Most emails are not even read.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57283</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golly - the CAPTCHA has gotta disappear eventually, doesn&#039;t it?  It was a unique method for teasing out humans from bots, but slows down the user a great deal.  What I like about sending an email is that I can sign up for a site and in the future be reminded that I signed up by searching through my email (yes, I am that forgetful).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly &#8211; the CAPTCHA has gotta disappear eventually, doesn&#8217;t it?  It was a unique method for teasing out humans from bots, but slows down the user a great deal.  What I like about sending an email is that I can sign up for a site and in the future be reminded that I signed up by searching through my email (yes, I am that forgetful).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57274</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the form is completely Ajax driven, do you even need obtrusive Captcha at all?  Could you not just put the Captcha challenge in a the noscript tag to keep it accessible when javascript is disabled of for screen readers (assuming you have an audible challenge as well in that case)?  Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the form is completely Ajax driven, do you even need obtrusive Captcha at all?  Could you not just put the Captcha challenge in a the noscript tag to keep it accessible when javascript is disabled of for screen readers (assuming you have an audible challenge as well in that case)?  Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFrankie</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57269</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFrankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captcha is better than email - but wouldn&#039;t it great if there was a picture captcha. Let&#039;s say you have x-pictures of man and women faces. You show the picture and the &quot;human&quot; answers the question if it is  boy or a girl. This is beyond OCR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captcha is better than email &#8211; but wouldn&#8217;t it great if there was a picture captcha. Let&#8217;s say you have x-pictures of man and women faces. You show the picture and the &#8220;human&#8221; answers the question if it is  boy or a girl. This is beyond OCR.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57268</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reCAPTCHA has built-in audio options for accessibility, it&#039;s one of the reasons I opted to use them in this initial build work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reCAPTCHA has built-in audio options for accessibility, it&#8217;s one of the reasons I opted to use them in this initial build work.</p>
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		<title>By: Crissy</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57267</link>
		<dc:creator>Crissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, waiting on an email for anything is always more annoying, imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, waiting on an email for anything is always more annoying, imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meller</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2007/07/26/captcha-or-challenge#comment-57266</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and just so you know... Zend&#039;s site is horrible (in my experience) about emails. Countless times I&#039;ve done *something* on their site that wants to send me an email (like resetting a password), and it can take hours to get it, if it sends at all. So these problems clearly aren&#039;t isolated to small sites - even the big guys have them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and just so you know&#8230; Zend&#8217;s site is horrible (in my experience) about emails. Countless times I&#8217;ve done *something* on their site that wants to send me an email (like resetting a password), and it can take hours to get it, if it sends at all. So these problems clearly aren&#8217;t isolated to small sites &#8211; even the big guys have them too.</p>
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