Comments on: Churning http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning Alex King's blog - software, photography, sports, etc. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:28:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: owen clivet http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-63568 owen clivet Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:17:25 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-63568 churning?? at least you could have a better name for the topic!!! churning??
at least you could have a better name for the topic!!!

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]]> By: Roland Hesz http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59312 Roland Hesz Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:01:30 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59312 I agree - my blog is boring, and I changed my design lately, so there is correlation I can attest to it. Though, I change my design only because the one I used fell apart when WP2.3 came out, and I can't find a layout I like. So your statement is quite true. I agree - my blog is boring, and I changed my design lately, so there is correlation I can attest to it. Though, I change my design only because the one I used fell apart when WP2.3 came out, and I can’t find a layout I like.

So your statement is quite true.

]]> By: Quick blog random update.. | Blog Random http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59298 Quick blog random update.. | Blog Random Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:57:24 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59298 [...] I’ve spent the last two weeks working on some plugins and a design for this blog. It’s been good fun and I needed to get rid of the template from wp themes but it took up a lot of spare time. Now that the design is out the way I’m planning to spend a lot more time on some decent quality posts. I don’t want to be a churner (alex king blog). [...] […] I’ve spent the last two weeks working on some plugins and a design for this blog. It’s been good fun and I needed to get rid of the template from wp themes but it took up a lot of spare time. Now that the design is out the way I’m planning to spend a lot more time on some decent quality posts. I don’t want to be a churner (alex king blog). […]

]]> By: Geof F. Morris http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59261 Geof F. Morris Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:37:49 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59261 <blockquote>I guess I gravitate towards my own kind.</blockquote> Holy confirmation bias, Batman! ;) [I like operators. I like working with operators. I like being an operator. I like kicking ass.]

I guess I gravitate towards my own kind.

Holy confirmation bias, Batman! ;)

[I like operators. I like working with operators. I like being an operator. I like kicking ass.]

]]> By: Alex http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59257 Alex Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:11:26 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59257 Micah, I think that this may be an extension of "people that do" rather than "people that think about doing" - blogging is another way this shows itself. What you do is interesting, ideas that you do not actually follow up on are not so interesting. It's the same as product ideas vs. execution - it's the execution that matters. Back to design - there are some great blogs from designers who write very little, but instead post their design work. <blockquote>You are a coder after all!</blockquote> Originally I was a designer, not a coder - but what I have always been is a "do-er". I guess I gravitate towards my own kind. Micah, I think that this may be an extension of “people that do” rather than “people that think about doing” - blogging is another way this shows itself.

What you do is interesting, ideas that you do not actually follow up on are not so interesting. It’s the same as product ideas vs. execution - it’s the execution that matters.

Back to design - there are some great blogs from designers who write very little, but instead post their design work.

You are a coder after all!

Originally I was a designer, not a coder - but what I have always been is a “do-er”. I guess I gravitate towards my own kind.

]]> By: Micah Baldwin http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59255 Micah Baldwin Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:58:22 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59255 There are two types of bloggers: 1) Writers: The design needs to be functional and support the content. Once the right design is found, it probably never really changes. 2) Designers: The design matters more than the content. Probably post a lot of pictures, while the content may be focused, it probably is not. Therefore designs change more often. Caveat to above: new bloggers. They keep finding new themes and want to play with them. Also, I would imagine infrequent bloggers like to change out their themes to increase the freshness / newness of the blog. At the end of the day, I think there is little correlation between quality of content and design. It may be, Alex, that you are reading more blogs written by writers than designers. You are a coder after all! ;) There are two types of bloggers:

1) Writers: The design needs to be functional and support the content. Once the right design is found, it probably never really changes.

2) Designers: The design matters more than the content. Probably post a lot of pictures, while the content may be focused, it probably is not. Therefore designs change more often.

Caveat to above: new bloggers. They keep finding new themes and want to play with them. Also, I would imagine infrequent bloggers like to change out their themes to increase the freshness / newness of the blog.

At the end of the day, I think there is little correlation between quality of content and design. It may be, Alex, that you are reading more blogs written by writers than designers. You are a coder after all! ;)

]]> By: Bruce Keener http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59248 Bruce Keener Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:45:18 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59248 I also agree with your observation. As a relatively new blogger, I am beginning to recognize I have changed designs too often, and that time is better spent on content. My trying out different designs has been to find one that "is me" and one that does not looks "professional enough." Also, it has been prompted by an obsession with trying to get better numbers in Google Analytics (pages per visit, time on each page, etc). But, as I look around at sites like Scoble's, Vanessa Fox, and others, I do not see their designs as being particularly compelling, but they clearly have high traffic (because of their content). It is a lesson that is learned slowly (at least in my case), and seeing your post makes me think I just need to pick a design and stick with it. Thanks for the post. I also agree with your observation. As a relatively new blogger, I am beginning to recognize I have changed designs too often, and that time is better spent on content.

My trying out different designs has been to find one that “is me” and one that does not looks “professional enough.” Also, it has been prompted by an obsession with trying to get better numbers in Google Analytics (pages per visit, time on each page, etc). But, as I look around at sites like Scoble’s, Vanessa Fox, and others, I do not see their designs as being particularly compelling, but they clearly have high traffic (because of their content).

It is a lesson that is learned slowly (at least in my case), and seeing your post makes me think I just need to pick a design and stick with it. Thanks for the post.

]]> By: Joe Casabona http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59247 Joe Casabona Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:13:36 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59247 I agree. I actually used to change every six months or so because I wasn't really happy with the design, and let's face it, I didn't have much important to say. Now I feel the design is good enough and easy enough to bone up a little if needed, without a total over-haul. Plus, I am writing what I feel are better posts than I was say, 2 years ago. I agree. I actually used to change every six months or so because I wasn’t really happy with the design, and let’s face it, I didn’t have much important to say.

Now I feel the design is good enough and easy enough to bone up a little if needed, without a total over-haul. Plus, I am writing what I feel are better posts than I was say, 2 years ago.

]]> By: Chris Hubbs http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59245 Chris Hubbs Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:21:31 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59245 Geof has stolen my thunder, and indeed much of my experience with bloggers is from the community he runs. I wholeheartedly agree with his two points. With the advent of feed readers, though, who notices design changes any more? I only notice them when a) the blogger notes it in a post, or b) when I actually visit the site to leave a comment. Geof has stolen my thunder, and indeed much of my experience with bloggers is from the community he runs. I wholeheartedly agree with his two points.

With the advent of feed readers, though, who notices design changes any more? I only notice them when a) the blogger notes it in a post, or b) when I actually visit the site to leave a comment.

]]> By: Geof F. Morris http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59243 Geof F. Morris Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:54:12 +0000 http://alexking.org/blog/2007/10/16/churning#comment-59243 My anecdotal knowledge lines up with yours, in two ways: 1. I run a <a href="http://rmfo-blogs.com/">WordPress-powered Weblog community</a>, and the best bloggers there have had the same design to their site for years. Conversely, the ones who aspire to be great but won't put the time in seek to change their theme every six weeks. 2. I only ever feel like changing my design when everything else is going to hell with my Weblogs and I'm not writing anything interesting. My anecdotal knowledge lines up with yours, in two ways:

1. I run a WordPress-powered Weblog community, and the best bloggers there have had the same design to their site for years. Conversely, the ones who aspire to be great but won’t put the time in seek to change their theme every six weeks.

2. I only ever feel like changing my design when everything else is going to hell with my Weblogs and I’m not writing anything interesting.

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