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	<title>Comments on: Popularity Contest 2.0 beta 1</title>
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	<description>Alex King, Denver Web Developer</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-70281</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m closing comments here since this release is now obsolete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m closing comments here since this release is now obsolete.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Thompson</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-70085</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex,

I took the risk to try upgrading to the new 2.0b2 version as soon as I saw it on my list of available updates and... it worked! No more &quot;Error&quot; and dead blog.

Whatever you did to fix it worked for me.

Thank you for the timely update.

--Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>I took the risk to try upgrading to the new 2.0b2 version as soon as I saw it on my list of available updates and&#8230; it worked! No more &#8220;Error&#8221; and dead blog.</p>
<p>Whatever you did to fix it worked for me.</p>
<p>Thank you for the timely update.</p>
<p>&#8211;Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69992</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely a &quot;whacked out config&quot; situation. I still can&#039;t get the data condition that can trigger this issue to happen unless I manually go in to MySQL and delete all the rows in a certain table. It&#039;s an edge case that wasn&#039;t caught in testing - bugs happen.

Now that this particular issue has been described and replicated, the code for this issue is already changed in local testing and will be different for the next release.

Having full knowledge of the situation (including a number of things that are probably unaccounted for by those complaining rather loudly) I feel very comfortable with the decisions made that led to this situation. All decisions were made in good faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely a &#8220;whacked out config&#8221; situation. I still can&#8217;t get the data condition that can trigger this issue to happen unless I manually go in to MySQL and delete all the rows in a certain table. It&#8217;s an edge case that wasn&#8217;t caught in testing &#8211; bugs happen.</p>
<p>Now that this particular issue has been described and replicated, the code for this issue is already changed in local testing and will be different for the next release.</p>
<p>Having full knowledge of the situation (including a number of things that are probably unaccounted for by those complaining rather loudly) I feel very comfortable with the decisions made that led to this situation. All decisions were made in good faith.</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69988</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alexking yes but how about for all the people on 2.8 when your plugin goes into &quot;auto update&quot; mode and kill&#039;s their blogs.

I get that there will always be some whacked out config, but at this point that doesnt seem to be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alexking yes but how about for all the people on 2.8 when your plugin goes into &#8220;auto update&#8221; mode and kill&#8217;s their blogs.</p>
<p>I get that there will always be some whacked out config, but at this point that doesnt seem to be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Popularity Contest: Wordpress Plugin Hall of Shame &#124; Evil Genius Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69909</link>
		<dc:creator>Popularity Contest: Wordpress Plugin Hall of Shame &#124; Evil Genius Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that unless seeing a &#8220;b&#8221; in the version number was supposed to communicate that. Over on his plugin page, Alex King defends the use of the wp_die call as being reasonable. I don&#8217;t see that rendering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that unless seeing a &#8220;b&#8221; in the version number was supposed to communicate that. Over on his plugin page, Alex King defends the use of the wp_die call as being reasonable. I don&#8217;t see that rendering [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69857</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@graywolf - the older version of the plugin will not install on versions of WordPress 2.5 and later.

@Dave - I can&#039;t reproduce this yet, but will give it another try. wp_die() is a very valid thing to call as a plugin dev. Also remember, this is a beta - expect bugs. That&#039;s why you release a beta - to find them!

WordPress HelpCenter provides support for my plugins - which is a lot better than the previous situation where no one did. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@graywolf &#8211; the older version of the plugin will not install on versions of WordPress 2.5 and later.</p>
<p>@Dave &#8211; I can&#8217;t reproduce this yet, but will give it another try. wp_die() is a very valid thing to call as a plugin dev. Also remember, this is a beta &#8211; expect bugs. That&#8217;s why you release a beta &#8211; to find them!</p>
<p>WordPress HelpCenter provides support for my plugins &#8211; which is a lot better than the previous situation where no one did. <img src='http://alexking.org/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Slusher</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69856</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Slusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an existing install of popularity contest and an existing wp_ak_popularity_options table with zero rows in it. I&#039;m assuming that everyone with the problem has this situation.  You are calling wp_die on that situation which previous installs can validly arrive at. This is a big big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an existing install of popularity contest and an existing wp_ak_popularity_options table with zero rows in it. I&#8217;m assuming that everyone with the problem has this situation.  You are calling wp_die on that situation which previous installs can validly arrive at. This is a big big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Slusher</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69854</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Slusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Alex was not interested in figuring out why the automatic upgrade was killing some people&#039;s blog (like mine), I sat down and figured it out myself. For the record, the problem was bad logic in the plugin not database permissions or all the other things that Alex was trying to send people to Wordpress Help Center for. If you had the table but it was empty, like you had only defaults, it would kill the blog with the wp_die. Bad bad bad thing to do from a plugin.

http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2009/06/23/popularity-contest-wordpress-plugin-hall-of-shame/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Alex was not interested in figuring out why the automatic upgrade was killing some people&#8217;s blog (like mine), I sat down and figured it out myself. For the record, the problem was bad logic in the plugin not database permissions or all the other things that Alex was trying to send people to WordPress Help Center for. If you had the table but it was empty, like you had only defaults, it would kill the blog with the wp_die. Bad bad bad thing to do from a plugin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpress/2009/06/23/popularity-contest-wordpress-plugin-hall-of-shame/" rel="nofollow">http://www.evilgeniu[...]ll-of-shame/</a></p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69852</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since you&#039;re only interested in shuffling people off to some paid help service why not a link to the old working plugin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since you&#8217;re only interested in shuffling people off to some paid help service why not a link to the old working plugin</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69727</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That message will occur if Popularity Contest cannot create/update the database table it needs. I recommend contacting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wphelpcenter.com&quot;&gt;WordPress HelpCenter&lt;/a&gt; if you need assistance resolving that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That message will occur if Popularity Contest cannot create/update the database table it needs. I recommend contacting the <a href="http://wphelpcenter.com">WordPress HelpCenter</a> if you need assistance resolving that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Thompson</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69694</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having the same issue as Kevin where he updates and gets the message:

Error: Popularity contest cannot be installed.

This takes over the whole WP page load and the only way to get the site back is to upload the old version of Popularity Contest... then everything is fine.

Kevin said he dropped his options table from the db and reinstalled?!? That&#039;s crazy; this is an established site. I shouldn&#039;t have to drop my WP options table and config all over again just because of one plugin update.

What&#039;s really going on here? All my other plugins update perfectly and WP has full access to its own database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having the same issue as Kevin where he updates and gets the message:</p>
<p>Error: Popularity contest cannot be installed.</p>
<p>This takes over the whole WP page load and the only way to get the site back is to upload the old version of Popularity Contest&#8230; then everything is fine.</p>
<p>Kevin said he dropped his options table from the db and reinstalled?!? That&#8217;s crazy; this is an established site. I shouldn&#8217;t have to drop my WP options table and config all over again just because of one plugin update.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really going on here? All my other plugins update perfectly and WP has full access to its own database.</p>
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		<title>By: Popularity Contestçµ‚æ–¼æ›´æ–°äº† &#124; è…¦èŠ±</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69463</link>
		<dc:creator>Popularity Contestçµ‚æ–¼æ›´æ–°äº† &#124; è…¦èŠ±</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Popularity Contestæ˜¯æ¯”è¼ƒè‘—åçš„wordpressçµ±è¨ˆæ’ä»¶ï¼Œåœ¨æ­¤æ¬¡æ›´æ–°å‰ä¸€ç›´å­˜åœ¨ä¸€å€‹å°Žè‡´ç„¡æ³•å•Ÿå‹•çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œå…¶å¯¦ä¹Ÿæ˜¯ä¸€å€‹éžå¸¸ç°¡å–®çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œåœ¨ä»£ç¢¼è£¡ç¨ä½œä¿®æ”¹å³å¯ã€‚ä½†æ’ä»¶ä½œè€…ä¸€ç›´æ²’åšä¿®æ”¹ã€‚æ­¤æ¬¡Popularity Contestç›´æŽ¥æ›´æ–°åˆ°2.0ç‰ˆæœ¬ï¼Œé¦–å…ˆå°±æ˜¯è§£æ±ºäº†ä¸Šè¿°çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œè€Œä¸”ä¹Ÿå¢žåŠ äº†ä¸€äº›åŠŸèƒ½ã€‚ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Popularity Contestæ˜¯æ¯”è¼ƒè‘—åçš„wordpressçµ±è¨ˆæ’ä»¶ï¼Œåœ¨æ­¤æ¬¡æ›´æ–°å‰ä¸€ç›´å­˜åœ¨ä¸€å€‹å°Žè‡´ç„¡æ³•å•Ÿå‹•çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œå…¶å¯¦ä¹Ÿæ˜¯ä¸€å€‹éžå¸¸ç°¡å–®çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œåœ¨ä»£ç¢¼è£¡ç¨ä½œä¿®æ”¹å³å¯ã€‚ä½†æ’ä»¶ä½œè€…ä¸€ç›´æ²’åšä¿®æ”¹ã€‚æ­¤æ¬¡Popularity Contestç›´æŽ¥æ›´æ–°åˆ°2.0ç‰ˆæœ¬ï¼Œé¦–å…ˆå°±æ˜¯è§£æ±ºäº†ä¸Šè¿°çš„å•é¡Œï¼Œè€Œä¸”ä¹Ÿå¢žåŠ äº†ä¸€äº›åŠŸèƒ½ã€‚ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69457</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - this is likely an issue with your theme. I&#039;d recommend debugging the theme or contacting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wphelpcenter.com&quot;&gt;WordPress HelpCenter&lt;/a&gt;.

Carmine - sorry, can&#039;t reproduce this. I recommend contacting my friends at the WordPress HelpCenter - they can help you figure out what the issue is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; this is likely an issue with your theme. I&#8217;d recommend debugging the theme or contacting the <a href="http://wphelpcenter.com">WordPress HelpCenter</a>.</p>
<p>Carmine &#8211; sorry, can&#8217;t reproduce this. I recommend contacting my friends at the WordPress HelpCenter &#8211; they can help you figure out what the issue is.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmine</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69455</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Version 2.0b1 loads fine, but them totally locks Wordpress 2.8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Version 2.0b1 loads fine, but them totally locks WordPress 2.8.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://alexking.org/blog/2009/06/17/popularity-contest-2-0-beta-1#comment-69431</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

Here is the link to my site - http://www.blackberrystormfront.com/.  Look at the end of the shorter posts on the main page, you will see, AKPC_IDS += â€œxxxx,â€.  If you go into the actual post it&#039;s not present.  Any ideas, I&#039;ve been trying to fix myself to no avail.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Here is the link to my site &#8211; <a href="http://www.blackberrystormfront.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackberr[...]rmfront.com/</a>.  Look at the end of the shorter posts on the main page, you will see, AKPC_IDS += â€œxxxx,â€.  If you go into the actual post it&#8217;s not present.  Any ideas, I&#8217;ve been trying to fix myself to no avail.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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